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#30
Yep, I wrote something about #30. It's more grumpy than snarky, but it has a poll.
Nothing was delivered
And I tell this truth to you,
Not out of spite or anger
But simply because it's true.
- Bob Dylan, "Nothing Was Delivered"
"My god, it sucks to be weak."
- Buffy Summers, Season 8 #30
#30, then. The end of the arc that, as Allie once again tells us in the letter column here, was supposed to leave us shocked, pissed off and scrambling for pitchforks (actual quote). The arc that was advertised with phrases that all said "people are going to die" (again, actual quote). The one that was so chock-full of reveals and developments that it had to be stretched to 5 issues and followed by no less than two standalones.
And it ends predictably, considering the plan they came up with: the former slayer army loses and everyone remains powerless. Geez, Buffyverse gods not playing by human rules, what were the odds? Despite the advance hype, however, we get no character deaths (apart from a bunch of redshirts nobody cares about), no big reveals, no new clues about who Twilight is (nor any more reasons to care), no major thematic or character developments that hadn't already been covered (well, maybe one, see below), and then at the end an advance hint of whatever will be the plot of the next arc. Like #29 before it, it's mostly stuff blowing up, and that bores me even in movies where it doesn't look like something out of My Little Pony like Jeanty's art tends to do. Yeah, I see now how they absolutely had to stretch this story out to five issues. Or six. Or seven, or however many it'll end up being.
I'm pretty sure I recall someone hinting a few months ago that Twilight would be revealed in this issue, but of course the reveal has since been postponed yet again, so it's no big surprise that almost 3 years into the story we still know jack squat about him except that we know jack squat about him. Which apparently is supposed to make him interesting. That's not mystery, it's hide-and-go-seek. Given that his entire point is to be someone in disguise, and that none of the characters seem to want to know who he is, I stand by my prediction from last month: Twilight won't be revealed. At all. Ever.
Riley's confirmed as a triple agent (at least). Not a very useful one, since he hasn't actually done anything to help Buffy yet; I suppose all the redshirts he watched get killed without doing anything (or stop Twilight when he was standing right beside him) were considered acceptable losses, but hey, big picture. I'm sure we'll get a good explanation for what he's been up to and what his role is in Season 8 any decade now, his arc so far has been... non-existant, really.
But there is one very welcome thing about the issue: Buffy realises that simply saying she's the good guy makes absolutely no difference, and starts actually acting like it. For the first time in a bunch of issues, she seems to actually draw a reasonable conclusion, and her speech about "protecting everything that bleeds" is great. It's the kind of (rather obvious) reply to the "you're at war with the human race" challenge I've been waiting for for 30 issues now. Yay Buffy! A pity it's immediately followed by another 90-degree turn into the absurd, as...
Now, I'm guessing that Buffy being able to fly is the big thing that was supposed to piss us off. Of course,for it to piss anyone off it would have to have some significance, and so far I have no idea what it's supposed to do (and given the art, I wasn't even sure what it was supposed to be). I've seen some speculation that this is the buddhist thing where by giving up power, you get power. Which is nice for Buffy who gave up her power and is now Superman, and less so for all the others who gave up their power and are now either prisoners, killers, dead, or some combination thereof. I suppose that's why nobody who's not just cannon fodder bought it in this issue; having Buffy become a superbeing because Faith or Willow died might have been a hard sell.
No, it doesn't look like Season 8 is in a hurry to return to the relative realism of the TV show anytime soon. Maybe it'll make sense, maybe it won't, maybe Buffy will get herself a really spiffy cape and matching tights, but at least it continues Season 8's consistent trend of random transformations. I think a poll is in order.
[Poll #1482133]
So, this is where I would sum up the entire arc, but of course it's not over yet even though it's already one issue into overtime, so I have no idea what to write here. One idiot plot, two issues of some really good character introspection, and three issues of Bruckheimeresque fight scenes. Yeah, I know, this is all setup for something. That's what we said after "Predators and Prey" too, wasn't it? Come to think of it, that's what the Lost fans are still telling me years after I gave up on that series. And Season 8 hasn't even gotten to the magical polar bears yet.
General observations:
- They would have saved themselves a lot of trouble (and a lot of nameless dead Slayers, if anyone's expected to care) by surrendering right away when it became obvious that the fight was unwinnable (about two issues ago). Just sayin'.
- And Twilight is now officially commanding US soldiers in battle. On PRC territory. With nobody questioning it. Huh.
- The goddesses were said to want to kill everyone and then move on to the next valley. Except then they move on without killing everyone. Oh well.
- Allie confirms that the Slayers in Tibet aren't "ALL the Slayers (…) there are still cells in other countries"; so much for the argument that Buffy and her gang had no choice but to go with Operation Sitting Duck or die. In short, it retains its title as Dumbest Tactic Ever.
- Has the "Chosen" spell been permanently undone now? Seems like. Should make some people happy, I guess. I was pretty sure Joss wouldn't do that, and I'm still not sure he will.
- Also, there's the...
...You know what? I think I'm done. I don't care who Twilight is, I have no interest in spending another year on this only to see Buffy shoehorned into Fray, and as for Buffy's newfound Powers Of Sudden Plot Device, I gave up Superman when I was 14. I keep hoping the comic will somehow reconnect with the show, and it keeps moving further away (deliberately, apparently). I keep hoping something will click and everything will make sense, and it keeps getting more random. I keep hoping the story will match the admittedly interesting themes being explored, and it keeps breaking its own back to fit the metaphor.
I love Buffy because, as fantastical and as silly as it got, it was always grounded in some semblance of reality, some sort of earth logic in a fantasy setting; if you do A, you can reasonably expect B to follow (except then C happens instead because A isn't as simple as you think, but there's still cause and effect). It was about the challenges of everyday life. It's not that Buffy now has comic-book superhero powers, it's that... to paraphrase a good TV writer, if shit just happens, if nothing the characters do matters, then nothing matters. I don't feel the logic of it, I have no way to tell what anything is supposed to mean, understand why anyone does what they do. Does that make it a bad story? Maybe, maybe not, I'm sure it's a lot of fun for people who enjoy that sort of story, and good luck to you. But despite Allie hoping that it would piss us off, all it does is bore me; what pisses me off is that after 30+ issues, all it manages to do is bore me. And so...
Grr. Argh.
The fewer words you have to waste on this,
The sooner you can go.
- Bob Dylan, "Nothing Was Delivered"
Nothing was delivered
And I tell this truth to you,
Not out of spite or anger
But simply because it's true.
- Bob Dylan, "Nothing Was Delivered"
"My god, it sucks to be weak."
- Buffy Summers, Season 8 #30
#30, then. The end of the arc that, as Allie once again tells us in the letter column here, was supposed to leave us shocked, pissed off and scrambling for pitchforks (actual quote). The arc that was advertised with phrases that all said "people are going to die" (again, actual quote). The one that was so chock-full of reveals and developments that it had to be stretched to 5 issues and followed by no less than two standalones.
And it ends predictably, considering the plan they came up with: the former slayer army loses and everyone remains powerless. Geez, Buffyverse gods not playing by human rules, what were the odds? Despite the advance hype, however, we get no character deaths (apart from a bunch of redshirts nobody cares about), no big reveals, no new clues about who Twilight is (nor any more reasons to care), no major thematic or character developments that hadn't already been covered (well, maybe one, see below), and then at the end an advance hint of whatever will be the plot of the next arc. Like #29 before it, it's mostly stuff blowing up, and that bores me even in movies where it doesn't look like something out of My Little Pony like Jeanty's art tends to do. Yeah, I see now how they absolutely had to stretch this story out to five issues. Or six. Or seven, or however many it'll end up being.
I'm pretty sure I recall someone hinting a few months ago that Twilight would be revealed in this issue, but of course the reveal has since been postponed yet again, so it's no big surprise that almost 3 years into the story we still know jack squat about him except that we know jack squat about him. Which apparently is supposed to make him interesting. That's not mystery, it's hide-and-go-seek. Given that his entire point is to be someone in disguise, and that none of the characters seem to want to know who he is, I stand by my prediction from last month: Twilight won't be revealed. At all. Ever.
Riley's confirmed as a triple agent (at least). Not a very useful one, since he hasn't actually done anything to help Buffy yet; I suppose all the redshirts he watched get killed without doing anything (or stop Twilight when he was standing right beside him) were considered acceptable losses, but hey, big picture. I'm sure we'll get a good explanation for what he's been up to and what his role is in Season 8 any decade now, his arc so far has been... non-existant, really.
But there is one very welcome thing about the issue: Buffy realises that simply saying she's the good guy makes absolutely no difference, and starts actually acting like it. For the first time in a bunch of issues, she seems to actually draw a reasonable conclusion, and her speech about "protecting everything that bleeds" is great. It's the kind of (rather obvious) reply to the "you're at war with the human race" challenge I've been waiting for for 30 issues now. Yay Buffy! A pity it's immediately followed by another 90-degree turn into the absurd, as...
Now, I'm guessing that Buffy being able to fly is the big thing that was supposed to piss us off. Of course,for it to piss anyone off it would have to have some significance, and so far I have no idea what it's supposed to do (and given the art, I wasn't even sure what it was supposed to be). I've seen some speculation that this is the buddhist thing where by giving up power, you get power. Which is nice for Buffy who gave up her power and is now Superman, and less so for all the others who gave up their power and are now either prisoners, killers, dead, or some combination thereof. I suppose that's why nobody who's not just cannon fodder bought it in this issue; having Buffy become a superbeing because Faith or Willow died might have been a hard sell.
No, it doesn't look like Season 8 is in a hurry to return to the relative realism of the TV show anytime soon. Maybe it'll make sense, maybe it won't, maybe Buffy will get herself a really spiffy cape and matching tights, but at least it continues Season 8's consistent trend of random transformations. I think a poll is in order.
[Poll #1482133]
So, this is where I would sum up the entire arc, but of course it's not over yet even though it's already one issue into overtime, so I have no idea what to write here. One idiot plot, two issues of some really good character introspection, and three issues of Bruckheimeresque fight scenes. Yeah, I know, this is all setup for something. That's what we said after "Predators and Prey" too, wasn't it? Come to think of it, that's what the Lost fans are still telling me years after I gave up on that series. And Season 8 hasn't even gotten to the magical polar bears yet.
General observations:
- They would have saved themselves a lot of trouble (and a lot of nameless dead Slayers, if anyone's expected to care) by surrendering right away when it became obvious that the fight was unwinnable (about two issues ago). Just sayin'.
- And Twilight is now officially commanding US soldiers in battle. On PRC territory. With nobody questioning it. Huh.
- The goddesses were said to want to kill everyone and then move on to the next valley. Except then they move on without killing everyone. Oh well.
- Allie confirms that the Slayers in Tibet aren't "ALL the Slayers (…) there are still cells in other countries"; so much for the argument that Buffy and her gang had no choice but to go with Operation Sitting Duck or die. In short, it retains its title as Dumbest Tactic Ever.
- Has the "Chosen" spell been permanently undone now? Seems like. Should make some people happy, I guess. I was pretty sure Joss wouldn't do that, and I'm still not sure he will.
- Also, there's the...
...You know what? I think I'm done. I don't care who Twilight is, I have no interest in spending another year on this only to see Buffy shoehorned into Fray, and as for Buffy's newfound Powers Of Sudden Plot Device, I gave up Superman when I was 14. I keep hoping the comic will somehow reconnect with the show, and it keeps moving further away (deliberately, apparently). I keep hoping something will click and everything will make sense, and it keeps getting more random. I keep hoping the story will match the admittedly interesting themes being explored, and it keeps breaking its own back to fit the metaphor.
I love Buffy because, as fantastical and as silly as it got, it was always grounded in some semblance of reality, some sort of earth logic in a fantasy setting; if you do A, you can reasonably expect B to follow (except then C happens instead because A isn't as simple as you think, but there's still cause and effect). It was about the challenges of everyday life. It's not that Buffy now has comic-book superhero powers, it's that... to paraphrase a good TV writer, if shit just happens, if nothing the characters do matters, then nothing matters. I don't feel the logic of it, I have no way to tell what anything is supposed to mean, understand why anyone does what they do. Does that make it a bad story? Maybe, maybe not, I'm sure it's a lot of fun for people who enjoy that sort of story, and good luck to you. But despite Allie hoping that it would piss us off, all it does is bore me; what pisses me off is that after 30+ issues, all it manages to do is bore me. And so...
Grr. Argh.
The fewer words you have to waste on this,
The sooner you can go.
- Bob Dylan, "Nothing Was Delivered"
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I miss the days of old where Buffy had plans that didn’t involve the Zapp Brannigan ‘stopping the killbots’ methodology. And where the villains would actually be present and not drop by occasionally and say “Oh, btw, I’m still evil if anybody’s interested”. I haven’t yet read this issue but, with this whole arc, I’m fuzzy on what Buffy’s plan was with this arc (whether there was one). As far as I can tell it’s the equivalent of a US General approaching his troops and saying:
‘Alright men listen up today we set forth out into the battle field and approach the enemy! When you do make contact with the enemy the first thing you will do is to strip naked and hand over your weapons! Then you will take this small pot of red paint and apply it to your chest and head in the shape of a target with no more then three consecutive rings! If the enemy is unfamiliar with your weapons you will proceed to train them in their use at which point you well then proceed to a distance of ten feet and advance utilizing the space invaders video game maneuver! Now go out there and die with dignity!’
It’s a shame that they didn’t put in the time otherwise the long term fans like us wouldn’t feel so alienated from the comic.
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Twilight might be the first Whedonverse villain ever who wouldn't have gotten anything achieved if everyone had just done what comes naturally and ignored him. Remember that Treehouse of Horror episode where the solution was to just not look at the monsters? But at least he actually has several lines of dialogue - plural! - in this issue. And reveals himself to be a complete wuss as soon as Warren and Amy start their hilarious bickering yet again and shove him out of the way. Apparently, not even evil masterminds can get too much of that.
As far as I can tell it’s the equivalent of a US General approaching his troops and saying... advance utilizing the space invaders video game maneuver! Now go out there and die with dignity!
Hee! Well, to be fair, that's pretty much word-for-word the orders that Twilight gives the US General in this issue when they come up against the goddesses. Funny how generals have no choice but to obey mysterious masked men when they order them to have their men kamikaze. That's a "Sir, according to the blah-de-blah-de-blah, I'm now revealing you of your already highly unconstitutional command" moment if I ever saw one.
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