beer_good_foamy: (Buffy)
beer_good_foamy ([personal profile] beer_good_foamy) wrote2012-07-19 12:01 pm

One poll or another

Here's a rewatch-inspired poll, presented with no preamble.

[Poll #1854770]

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. And Angel *agreeing* with her!

Oh yes.

the idea that the Connor dysfunction results at least in part from him being the result of Angel & Darla's coupling while Angel was at his lowest ebb trying to lose his soul

That works, though maybe a bit Lamarckian for my tastes. (And now I'm thinking about how the narrator in Tristram Shandy has his entire destiny determined by his father being distracted and looking at the clock just as he impregnates his wife...) That said, he was conceived both because Angel sought out a life for Darla honourably in The Trial, and because he totally wanted to lose his soul in Reprise makes it a pretty beautiful metaphor.

Have you heard the theory that Dawn's abdominal bleeding is a menstruation metaphor?

I'm not sure if there's anything in BtVS which hasn't been called a menstruation metaphor. :)

ultimately Darla was evil, in story, and killed thousands of people; and she had been cheating death as a vampire for 400 years

Right. The only thing she was ever good for was bringing a child into the world. ...I kid, I kid. Well, to 99%. Darla is a unique character, and it doesn't really do any good to reduce her to a cliché, from either perspective. Ultimately, I don't think the story does that, either; it's just there in the background somewhere, especially with what's going to happen next season...

(I have this plotbunny, which I've never managed to make work; Darla's mother travelling to the New World specifically to give her daughter a life of opportunities she never had. Hello to the irony. I keep getting caught up on historical details (though in my headcanon, the Virginia colonization happened a few years earlier - something to do with the Roanoke colony and a Chowanoc Slayer), and the fact that I can't name Darla within the story.)

[identity profile] local-max.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Right. The only thing she was ever good for was bringing a child into the world. ...I kid, I kid. Well, to 99%. Darla is a unique character, and it doesn't really do any good to reduce her to a cliché, from either perspective. Ultimately, I don't think the story does that, either; it's just there in the background somewhere, especially with what's going to happen next season...

Hm, WHATEVER COULD YOU BE REFERRING TO ABOUT THE NEXT SEASON? You know, s1's Expecting is a terrible episode, but it does end with Cordy NOT giving birth to a demon spawn. (Come to think of it, it's pretty weird that Cordelia's SECOND, third if you count "Bad Eggs," "demon spawn" incident is in Epiphany, right after Connor's conception.)

(I have this plotbunny, which I've never managed to make work; Darla's mother travelling to the New World specifically to give her daughter a life of opportunities she never had. Hello to the irony. I keep getting caught up on historical details (though in my headcanon, the Virginia colonization happened a few years earlier - something to do with the Roanoke colony and a Chowanoc Slayer), and the fact that I can't name Darla within the story.)

"And she had a beautiful and somewhat raspy voice and had blonde hair...." I love the irony, too.

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Cordelia's SECOND, third if you count "Bad Eggs," "demon spawn" incident

And then there's "Some Assembly Required", "Reptile Boy", "Through The Looking Glass"... The amount of episodes centered around someone needing to procreate with Cordelia really is remarkable.

[identity profile] local-max.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's interesting that W&H, in "Through the Looking Glass," play the same role that Jasmine plays in "Apocalypse, Nowish," effectively. Except W&H are the bad guys and the PtB were supposed to be the good guys. Cordy was perceptive in saying "the powers that screw you," sadly.

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the PTB really look like the guys in my icon.

[identity profile] local-max.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely.

[identity profile] rebcake.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Could her name be "Goody"? I always enjoy that, even though it's probably not entirely historically accurate, AND because she was nobody's "Goodwife".

[identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com 2012-07-19 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I like that. But the problem is less in coming up with a name, and more that I need to have a 4-year-old girl in the story with a new name that readers will recognise as Darla without me ending the story on "And that little girl grew up to be..."

Also, not making the story anvilicious is a bit of a challenge.

We'll see.