"we see exactly 0 vampires being able to not kill people without outside help (soul, chip, stake through the heart). " Well, the vampire whores do, as Giles explains though there can be some accidental deaths.
As for the "Spike didn't have free will" I always thought it didn't make much sense. He had enough free will to go looking for his soul, to help Buffy : nobody obliged him, the chip didn't made him do it. Granted he had reasons to do it, but still he chose to do it. Now if "Spike didn't have free will" means he didn't have any choice about being a vampire, that's another thing. But whatever, what's precisely making me ill at ease, is this idea of your nature making you evil, with vampires soulessness and evilness are intrisically linked : they aren't responsible for their evilness. Can you condemn someone for what he is, that's the problem I have? The same way, what's left of the notion of evil if there's isn't any component of personnal choice to do evil and knowing what it means? How could vampires be really evil if they don't know and more than that can't know the difference between good and bad? In catholic theology (I'm an atheist, but intellectualy it's interesting) demons are irredemable, not because they are demons but because they are hardened in their sins : they don't renounce and don't want to renounce to their sins.
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Date: 2009-07-08 09:35 pm (UTC)As for the "Spike didn't have free will" I always thought it didn't make much sense. He had enough free will to go looking for his soul, to help Buffy : nobody obliged him, the chip didn't made him do it. Granted he had reasons to do it, but still he chose to do it. Now if "Spike didn't have free will" means he didn't have any choice about being a vampire, that's another thing. But whatever, what's precisely making me ill at ease, is this idea of your nature making you evil, with vampires soulessness and evilness are intrisically linked : they aren't responsible for their evilness. Can you condemn someone for what he is, that's the problem I have? The same way, what's left of the notion of evil if there's isn't any component of personnal choice to do evil and knowing what it means? How could vampires be really evil if they don't know and more than that can't know the difference between good and bad? In catholic theology (I'm an atheist, but intellectualy it's interesting) demons are irredemable, not because they are demons but because they are hardened in their sins : they don't renounce and don't want to renounce to their sins.
And now I'll shut up. Sorry for spamming your LJ.