Date: 2012-04-17 01:22 pm (UTC)
Sometimes writers (*cough* Dark Horse *cough*) get too lazy with the "oh we can make the character do all sorts of fucked up things, we'll redeem him afterwards, like we did before". After a while, it becomes meaningless

Hell yes.

And then there's the example of a current supernatural show that did a brilliant story about a character whose only moment of redemption, if that's what it is, comes when he realizes that he has to die or he'll keep fucking up again and again and people will die as a result

I'm guessing you're thinking of Being Human? Yeah, that was a brave choice by the writers, and I loved that they actually went there. And the way they did it; they didn't have him sacrifice himself to save the world, go out in a blaze of glory Doing Good, or do anything to make his death a noble act other than in being... well, death. It's not a triumph, it's a surrender.
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