Nominations! Oh, and the comics thing.
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beer_good_foamy"Mission Accomplished" has gotten a bunch of nominations! I'm really happy and grateful for that. So from the bottom of my heart - as dark and evil as it may be - thank you to the people who nominated me.
Also, some quick'n'dirty thoughts on that Angel "After the Fall" comic thingy.
- Interesting setup, with Angel still working for W&H in hell. I have no idea where that could be going, or why he went along with it, and apparently he doesn't know either ("The punishment would be worse. Not sure how")... I'll just stick with "interesting" for now, see where it goes. And we get right down to business with Angel turning it around in the last few pages, which is good even though we barely get to know where he is before he starts trying to get out of it. So how does all of this fit in with the shanshu thingamabob? I'll reserve all judgment until the end of the arc.
- I like Angel here. Seems like a pretty good continuation of his s5 self. And I like that he knows that he's the one who started all this and he's the one in the thick of it – obviously, Angel has experience in guilt-tripping. And the first few pages are basically the teaser from "City Of" plus dragon. Though wait a minute... W&H killed Cordy? Since when? Or was it Fred that W&H killed in this verse? The only girlfriend of Angel's that W&H killed, AFAIR, is Darla – but surely Angel's not THAT slow on the uptake?
- Good dialogue throughout, especially for Angel and Wesley. Also, unlike certain other comics I could mention, we do get a decent amount of backstory on how they got from the TV show to here. Kudos.
- I know everyone is squeeing about this, but I'm less than thrilled about Wesley being back; I thought he got a good arc, a good death, and I sort of wish they'd let him stay dead – wasn't it enough that his life sucked, you gotta screw up his afterlife too? But hey, at least they didn't bring him back to life and claim that some witch had 4 seconds to save him; apparently he's under the same sort of deal as Holland and Lilah were, which makes sense, except he's incorporeal, which... doesn't, so much. (And raises the question why the hell a ghost needs glasses.) Also, he's now evil, or at least the mouthpiece of evil, and seems to have had a bit of a character reset in more than just dress sense. Huh. But of course, his name is also misspelt, so possibly it's not supposed to be Wesley at all.
- Gunn is alive! Yay! And he's a giant perv! Huh? Oh, wait, he's a vampire. OK, I'd heard that they had planned for that, and so no huge surprise, but... makes sense, I suppose he must have been turned in the battle. Great reveal, btw.
- Nice to see Gwen back. Kinda indifferent about Nina, especially since judging from her brief scene, she seems to have been given a complete personality transplant. Apocalypse can do that to you, I guess. Connor? That's supposed to be Connor?
- No sign of Spike (except in the preview for #2). No sign of Illyria. No sign of Lorne. No sign of Anne. No sign of... well, you get the picture.
- Fun villain. Kr'Ph, I mean. I want a fish like that.
- Art: apparently, people are very excited about this Urru guy. *shrugs* I dunno. The style takes some getting used to; very dark, a bit confusing in the action scenes, and while he captures the way people look, they don't look very... alive. (Of course most of them are dead in some way, but you know what I mean.) Every panel looks like a posed portrait to me. Might be more my unused-to-comics-ness, though.
- So since when is the Buffyverse all about showing large-breasted women in tight (or non-existant) outfits, hmmm? Sure, I can buy that Kr'Ph would want naked human women around, and it IS Los Angeles, but that powershot with Nina, Gwen and Connor... come ON. According to Brian Lynch, "the artist is from somewhere called 'Italy' and claims all women look like that." Oh well.
- So if this is somehow roughly the same timeframe as "Season 8", and both claim to be canon... how come nobody in the Slayer camp (or, for that matter, Twilight) seems to have noticed that most of LA and neighbouring towns have disappeared into Hell? You'd think that would be the sort of thing they would be interested in...? What do you say, comics fans, which canon is canonier right now?
- On a whole... *shrugs* As someone who considers "Not Fade Away" one of the best series finales ever shown on a TV screen, I'm kinda cold about this epilogue; it's going to take one HELL (pardon the pun) of a comic to sell me on this as a continuation of the TV series, and so far it's not really ringing any bells. Nice to have it, and there's some good stuff here that makes me curious to see where it's going, but based on the first issue I won't go out of my way to be excited over it (or shell out hard-earned cash for the TPBs) unless something truly spectacular happens.
Also, some quick'n'dirty thoughts on that Angel "After the Fall" comic thingy.
- Interesting setup, with Angel still working for W&H in hell. I have no idea where that could be going, or why he went along with it, and apparently he doesn't know either ("The punishment would be worse. Not sure how")... I'll just stick with "interesting" for now, see where it goes. And we get right down to business with Angel turning it around in the last few pages, which is good even though we barely get to know where he is before he starts trying to get out of it. So how does all of this fit in with the shanshu thingamabob? I'll reserve all judgment until the end of the arc.
- I like Angel here. Seems like a pretty good continuation of his s5 self. And I like that he knows that he's the one who started all this and he's the one in the thick of it – obviously, Angel has experience in guilt-tripping. And the first few pages are basically the teaser from "City Of" plus dragon. Though wait a minute... W&H killed Cordy? Since when? Or was it Fred that W&H killed in this verse? The only girlfriend of Angel's that W&H killed, AFAIR, is Darla – but surely Angel's not THAT slow on the uptake?
- Good dialogue throughout, especially for Angel and Wesley. Also, unlike certain other comics I could mention, we do get a decent amount of backstory on how they got from the TV show to here. Kudos.
- I know everyone is squeeing about this, but I'm less than thrilled about Wesley being back; I thought he got a good arc, a good death, and I sort of wish they'd let him stay dead – wasn't it enough that his life sucked, you gotta screw up his afterlife too? But hey, at least they didn't bring him back to life and claim that some witch had 4 seconds to save him; apparently he's under the same sort of deal as Holland and Lilah were, which makes sense, except he's incorporeal, which... doesn't, so much. (And raises the question why the hell a ghost needs glasses.) Also, he's now evil, or at least the mouthpiece of evil, and seems to have had a bit of a character reset in more than just dress sense. Huh. But of course, his name is also misspelt, so possibly it's not supposed to be Wesley at all.
- Gunn is alive! Yay! And he's a giant perv! Huh? Oh, wait, he's a vampire. OK, I'd heard that they had planned for that, and so no huge surprise, but... makes sense, I suppose he must have been turned in the battle. Great reveal, btw.
- Nice to see Gwen back. Kinda indifferent about Nina, especially since judging from her brief scene, she seems to have been given a complete personality transplant. Apocalypse can do that to you, I guess. Connor? That's supposed to be Connor?
- No sign of Spike (except in the preview for #2). No sign of Illyria. No sign of Lorne. No sign of Anne. No sign of... well, you get the picture.
- Fun villain. Kr'Ph, I mean. I want a fish like that.
- Art: apparently, people are very excited about this Urru guy. *shrugs* I dunno. The style takes some getting used to; very dark, a bit confusing in the action scenes, and while he captures the way people look, they don't look very... alive. (Of course most of them are dead in some way, but you know what I mean.) Every panel looks like a posed portrait to me. Might be more my unused-to-comics-ness, though.
- So since when is the Buffyverse all about showing large-breasted women in tight (or non-existant) outfits, hmmm? Sure, I can buy that Kr'Ph would want naked human women around, and it IS Los Angeles, but that powershot with Nina, Gwen and Connor... come ON. According to Brian Lynch, "the artist is from somewhere called 'Italy' and claims all women look like that." Oh well.
- So if this is somehow roughly the same timeframe as "Season 8", and both claim to be canon... how come nobody in the Slayer camp (or, for that matter, Twilight) seems to have noticed that most of LA and neighbouring towns have disappeared into Hell? You'd think that would be the sort of thing they would be interested in...? What do you say, comics fans, which canon is canonier right now?
- On a whole... *shrugs* As someone who considers "Not Fade Away" one of the best series finales ever shown on a TV screen, I'm kinda cold about this epilogue; it's going to take one HELL (pardon the pun) of a comic to sell me on this as a continuation of the TV series, and so far it's not really ringing any bells. Nice to have it, and there's some good stuff here that makes me curious to see where it's going, but based on the first issue I won't go out of my way to be excited over it (or shell out hard-earned cash for the TPBs) unless something truly spectacular happens.
